OK, so you keep trying to make this relationship work, but:

  1. when you sit down to talk things through, it gets worse instead of better;

  2. you can barely remember how it felt to be in love with your partner;

you’ve both settled for far less than you deserve.

Isn’t it time you discovered The Secret to a great relationship?

remarkable relationships for couples

Join Linda and Victor Roggli for

“The Heart of the Matter:  Sailing the Seven Cs to a Great Relationship”

Find out how to bring back the hugs and the giggles,

the deep affection and genuine communication,

the laughter and the love ...

As much as we'd like to believe in fairy tales or in country western songs, enduring relationships aren't the immediate result of an "I do" or exchanging keys to his/her apartment. Great relationships are created, day by day, conversation by conversation, event by event.

If you are fortunate enough to know a couple who has beaten the odds and stayed together for years, they will surely tell you that there have been some "rough times." A deeply satisfying, lasting relationship is forged in the way you handle those "rough times."

So what went wrong ... or right ... for the two of you?

Victor and I created the Heart of the Matter retreat because - with all
modesty aside - we have built a marriage that exceeds our wildest expectations. It wasn’t because we came from extraordinary families or had unlimited time and resources. We did it in spite of life’s ups and downs - kids and step-kids, ex-spouses and child support, health problems and career changes. Heck, we even built a new house together!

Over the years, we tried couple’s counseling, weekend retreats, relationship books, psychotherapy, fighting fair, 12-step programs, coaching and more. And they all worked to a certain extent.

But it was the combination of all those resources in tandem with our own commitment to each other that finally allowed us to click into a strong, steady relationship that grows deeper and more delightful each day.”

                                                                                     – Linda Roggli


Now you can create the marriage or relationship you truly deserve 

(but thought you'd already missed).

A single weekend in the Piedmont of North Carolina could quite literally change both your lives. Together, the two of you will:

               – Sail the Seven C's to a great relationship (hint: the first one is Commitment)

               – Learn the five secrets to appreciating each other fully

               – Find out how to listen (and hear) with love

               – Discover how to disagree without losing yourself

               – Refocus your attention on the "little things" that can strengthen your relationship

“I’m so glad we found your retreat.

It was comfortable, secluded and life-changing.”


                                                                                 – Karen, NC

Great relationships aren’t born, they’re built

Married for 16 years (second marriages for both), Linda and Victor have long experience in the relationship arena. After a rocky start in 1991...and 1992...and 1993...and 1994...well, you get the idea. It took a long time for this battle-weary couple to wake up and realize that their most precious gift was right in front of them: their relationship.

Now they have a marriage that most people yearn for. "You two are the shining example," said a friend.

But the Rogglis aren't much different from you. They didn't sit before an ancient guru to divine "The Secret" of lasting relationships (well, OK, there were a few therapists that had some good ideas).

Rather, they learned a few simple concepts that literally changed their world. And they are willing to share them with you and your partner in a single, glorious weekend.


Forged in the heat of blame; tempered by the deepest love


“You cannot begin to imagine the magic that can happen when you let yourself be guided by the spirit of GardenSpirit and Linda and Victor.”

                                                   – Nancy, NJ

“I learned I can listen, I can understand and

that I’m not a bad guy.”


                                                                                 – Pat, OH

"The Heart of the Matter” is a transformation retreat

exclusively for couples

“The Heart of the Matter” is a private retreat
(your participation is strictly confidential) with a maximum of four couples. The Rogglis recommend that you stay at GardenSpirit Guesthouse for the entire weekend - after all this is a retreat.

The format of the weekend (explained more fully on the Retreats page) is a combination of instruction, exercises you do alone with your partner and some group activities. The accent is all positive - Linda and Victor are there to help gently guide you to a relationship that is rich with meaning, friendship and love.


When should you attend a Heart of the Matter retreat?

Many couples wait ‘til things are desperate before making the decision to come to a Heart of the Matter retreat. But if you wait too long ... it might be too late. So, the Heart of the Matter might be right for you if:

- You feel that something is missing from your relationship

- You don’t feel ‘heard” in the relationship

- You find yourself staying away from home, or from your partner, more and more often

  1. -You feel alone, even when you’re with your partner

  2. -You talk to your friends more than to your partner

  3. -You’re in a vicious cycle of blame and shame, guilt and pain

  4. -You feel hopeless sometimes (but not all the time)

  5. -You’ve slept on the sofa (or another bedroom) more than once - this month

  6. -You find yourself angry at your spouse much of the time

  7. -You wish things would change but you don’t think your partner is willing to “work on it”

  8. -You fantasize about finding someone who really loves you

Click here to find out the dates

for the very next

Heart of the Matter retreat